What sports car for $100k?

"BadMotorScooter" (badmotorscooter) 03/05/2018 at 18:46 • Filed to: None

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Rules of the game -

1. Must be manual

2. Must be sports car

3. Fun more important than Fast

4. Can be new or used, but must be something relatively reliable and reasonable maintenance. Meaning no Testarossa’s with $30k engine out service requirements. As much as I might like one in white as shown...

Decay buys too many beaters > BadMotorScooter 03/05/2018 at 19:00

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Easy.

https://www.flyinmiata.com/V8/ND.php

BadMotorScooter > Decay buys too many beaters 03/05/2018 at 19:05

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Hmm, that’s compelling. Hadn’t considered that.

AestheticsInMotion > BadMotorScooter 03/05/2018 at 19:09

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NSX.

Original one (shame on you if you didn’t assume that)

Decay buys too many beaters > BadMotorScooter 03/05/2018 at 19:11

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Whenever anything new is released my counter is almost always “but the LS3 ND exists”

BadMotorScooter > AestheticsInMotion 03/05/2018 at 19:14

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Have carefully considered an NSX. Got very close to buying one on BAT recently too. But there’s something about it that holds me back a bit. Somehow doesn’t give me the fizz like I think it should. Almost too good or needs more character. Def in the running though.

Decay buys too many beaters > BadMotorScooter 03/05/2018 at 19:14

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But if it has to be a normalish car, it’s hard to argue against a used naturally aspirated 911 GTS in that price bracket

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > BadMotorScooter 03/05/2018 at 19:17

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I’d go with a ‘Vette C7 Zo6, most $100k European sports cars are gonna be fairly fickle with the maintenance, you can’t get a GTR with a manual, and there aren’t that many other Asian or American sports cars around that price point with a manual. A Viper perhaps, or the face-lifted original NSX.

AestheticsInMotion > BadMotorScooter 03/05/2018 at 19:19

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It’s on my shortlist. If things go juuuust right over the next year....

Besides that I’m thinking R8, Lamborghini Gallardo, i8 or even a 4c

djmt1 > BadMotorScooter 03/05/2018 at 19:33

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Lotus Exige S

Heard one of these for the first time and boy does that Toyota V6 sound amazing.

Wobbles the Mind > BadMotorScooter 03/05/2018 at 19:35

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Lotus Evora 400 MT.

Without a doubt!!

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > BadMotorScooter 03/05/2018 at 19:36

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“Very rare Model #964150 Carrera 4 Wide-Body with whale tail & original spoiler. 1 of only 254 distributed in the USA that year making it one of the rarest 964 models ever produced;30 Years of Excellence model. Sole driver (female) since purchase in 2000 from a friend. Original window sticker. 98,303 miles. Rim cap with Porsche crest, Full power seat left. Mechanically sound, all service records, no accidents, always garaged, regularly detailed. Updated CD/radio, remote door locks. See article by Norbert Franz, titled 964 Carrera 4 Coupe”

chaozbandit > BadMotorScooter 03/05/2018 at 19:40

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Since you didn’t specify currency, 100k CAD will net you a 355 spider with the engine service done fairly recently (alternatively 348tbs can be found here too).

http://www.autotrader.ca/a/ferrari/355%20spider/calgary/alberta/19_10371743_/?showcpo=ShowCpo&orup=16_15_74&pc=L3R%202A9&sprx=-1

If we go by the exchange rates, 100k USD (130k CAD) will net you the logical choice in this bracket: a Cayman GT4.

http://www.autotrader.ca/a/porsche/cayman/toronto/ontario/5_36579644_20170228191901395/?showcpo=ShowCpo&ursrc=pl&urp=2&urm=8&pc=L3R%202A9&sprx=-1

Saracen > BadMotorScooter 03/05/2018 at 19:41

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https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=472169902&zip=92111&referrer=%2Fcars-for-sale%2Fsearchresults.xhtml%3Fzip%3D92111%26startYear%3D2009%26vehicleStyleCodes%3DCOUPE%26incremental%3Dall%26endYear%3D2010%26modelCodeList%3D911%26makeCodeList%3DPOR%26transmissionCodes%3DMAN%26minPrice%3D80000%26sortBy%3Drelevance%26maxPrice%3D100000%26firstRecord%3D0%26searchRadius%3D0%26trimCodeList%3D911%257CTurbo&minPrice=80000&startYear=2009&numRecords=25&maxPrice=100000&vehicleStyleCodes=COUPE&firstRecord=0&endYear=2010&modelCodeList=911&makeCodeList=POR&searchRadius=0&makeCode1=POR&modelCode1=911

2009 997 Turbo is the best 997 Turbo. Fast, fun, manual, has the updated PCM, and damn reliable because Metzger.

BadMotorScooter > AestheticsInMotion 03/05/2018 at 19:45

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I’d take the NSX over those others, but all are interesting. R8 and Gallardo are both hard to find in a manual, and pricey when they are. That’s the only way I’d consider them too. i8 is not performance oriented enough. I like the 4C, but no manual, and it is very small. I’m also very interested in the Evora 400, spiritual successor to first gen NSX.

BadMotorScooter > Decay buys too many beaters 03/05/2018 at 19:47

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911 GTS is on the short list. I’m not sure how used it needs to be to get under $100k though, but just a matter of time. Tricky part might be finding one the way I’d want it.

Saracen > BadMotorScooter 03/05/2018 at 19:50

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997 GTS’ are generally in the low 70's to mid 80's.

991 GTS may just start to be dipping below 100k.

BadMotorScooter > chaozbandit 03/05/2018 at 19:52

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Good options. I’d take a 328 or maybe 348 before a 355 though. The GT4 is at/near the top of my list actually. Can’t really come up with an argument against it, except for finding a good one with options/color I like and that it’s a fancy Cayman. Not that there’s anything wrong with that really.

BadMotorScooter > Saracen 03/05/2018 at 19:54

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Hmm, hadn’t really thought about a 997 Turbo. Definite maybe. Would this be better than a GT4?

BadMotorScooter > djmt1 03/05/2018 at 19:55

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Yes, or an Evora 400! Downside is it’s a Lotus. Upside is it’s a Lotus!

BadMotorScooter > Wobbles the Mind 03/05/2018 at 19:56

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It is at/near the top of my list. Sounds incredible!

BadMotorScooter > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 03/05/2018 at 19:58

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I’ve had a few Corvettes (never a C7 though) and really like them but might be looking for something different. The $100k is more of a cap, so something cheaper is perfectly fine. I like the GS more than the Z06.

chaozbandit > BadMotorScooter 03/05/2018 at 19:58

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As nice as the GT4 is, something about a slightly older Cayman with a SOUL exhaust is equally enticing.

gettingoldercarguy > BadMotorScooter 03/05/2018 at 19:58

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997 turbo, gt3 or 996 gt3. Z28 for track day or zr1 for street driving, get a Caravaggio interior for the Vette. Or the v8 Miata.

AestheticsInMotion > BadMotorScooter 03/05/2018 at 19:58

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Looking at all the other 90's Japanese halo cars, I keep thinking to myself, “yeah it’s great, but.... I could buy an NSX instead”

The idea of a reliable, well-designed exotic that’s pure drivers car just keeps getting better.

Second choice is what Decay said, V8 swapped Miata.

Decay buys too many beaters > BadMotorScooter 03/05/2018 at 19:59

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“but the LS3 ND exists”

Saracen > BadMotorScooter 03/05/2018 at 19:59

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If you love the twisties, the GT4 will definitely be a better fit for the “fun over fast” criteria over the 997. Personally I don’t fit in the Cayman body very well so I just don’t consider it.

But the 997 is a far more flexible package. I drive my 997 regularly, it’s comfortable enough for 3 people (no one can sit behind me because I’m 6'4"). and I’ve even done Costco trips in it.

The only real issue with the metzger engine is a plastic coolant pipe flange. Replace the pipe with a metal upgrade and it’s a non issue, and you have a bulletproof, comfortable, daily driver supercar. 

You could easily pick a manual 997.2 GTS rather than a Turbo. But...who wouldn’t want a manual Turbo?

BadMotorScooter > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 03/05/2018 at 20:00

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Wow, now that is interesting.

BadMotorScooter > Saracen 03/05/2018 at 20:07

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Sorry, I was thinking 991 only. 997 GTS is another option.

Saracen > BadMotorScooter 03/05/2018 at 20:33

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One 991 GTS for sale matches your criteria: http://shopautofactory.com/?stocknum=124651&atc_ownerid=71578147

BlueMazda2 - Blesses the rains down in Africa, Purveyor of BMW Individual Arctic Metallic, Merci Twingo > BadMotorScooter 03/05/2018 at 20:34

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Simple, the obvious answer is a 1986 Alfa Romeo GTV-6.

Does it have a manual? Yes.

Is it a sports car? Yes.

Is it more fun than fast? Yes. 60 in 8.5 seconds of Busso V6 fury.

Is it used? Yes.

Is it under $100k? Yes.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1986-alfa-romeo-gtv6-2/

Steve is equipped with Electronic Fool Injection > BadMotorScooter 03/05/2018 at 20:39

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20 good condition NA Miatae.

BadMotorScooter > Saracen 03/05/2018 at 20:42

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I’ll bet we see a bunch more this Spring/Summer

BadMotorScooter > BlueMazda2 - Blesses the rains down in Africa, Purveyor of BMW Individual Arctic Metallic, Merci Twingo 03/05/2018 at 20:44

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Well, except for the relatively reliable part, you are onto something

Your boy, BJR > BadMotorScooter 03/05/2018 at 20:46

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Yeah I want this one too.

BlueMazda2 - Blesses the rains down in Africa, Purveyor of BMW Individual Arctic Metallic, Merci Twingo > BadMotorScooter 03/05/2018 at 20:59

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I’ve heard far more Milano (75) horror stories, so I’ll call it “reliable” for the time being.

Captain of the Enterprise > BadMotorScooter 03/05/2018 at 21:15

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First gen R8

wafflesnfalafel > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 03/05/2018 at 21:22

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dang, that is expensive for a 25yo 911 with 100k miles...

Shift24 > BadMotorScooter 03/05/2018 at 21:33

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If you live outside US, R34 GTR. Inside US current GT-R. Bullshit you don look at one as it drives by. So much after market and customization. And close enough with the flappy paddles.

If manual is must and US, De-Tomaso Pantera. No clue about the trans but 351 cleveland is decent and if it does go easily rebuilt

Saw in a previous comment you said no to a NSX so only next step.

Chan - Mid-engine with cabin fever > BadMotorScooter 03/05/2018 at 22:09

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997 GT3

360 Spider, although manuals tend to be just over $100k.

BadMotorScooter > Shift24 03/06/2018 at 00:22

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Gen 1 NSX is Def an option. I was 2nd place bidder recently on a NA1 NSX on BAT recently so I’m interested. Thing is I can’t seem to get jazzed enough to actually buy one. Give me more noise, more mechanical sensations, more character. But not old Ferrari character! I’m in US and manual is a must (fun car) so Pantera is very interesting. Have not considered that but it does seem to have everything I’m looking for.

BadMotorScooter > Captain of the Enterprise 03/06/2018 at 00:24

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Eh, no fizz. Well, some fizz but need a V10 manual. If i found the right one yeah but I might be waiting a while....

AM3R, lost another burner > AestheticsInMotion 03/06/2018 at 02:41

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Man selling your company must’ve paid off lol! I’d say go for a first gen R8. Then do a nice wrap like that European skier and race it around on wintertires all winter.

pip bip - choose Corrour > BadMotorScooter 03/06/2018 at 05:43

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2004-2006 Pontiac GTO

Shift24 > BadMotorScooter 03/06/2018 at 10:14

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Yeah I think the Pantera would have the old Ferrari flare without the heartache of seeing that repair bill. Though again I honestly have no clue about the trans or clutch, I just know that the 351 Cleveland is a strong motor even with medium bolt ons. Its when you eclipse the 450-500 hp is when they like to crack. (stock numbers are around 330 -360hp). 351 Windsors came in later and are more rare. (around 1988)

They do sound amazing though and im not a Ford guy.